S6E7 - Death at the Mountaintop (MLK Jr)

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You guessed it pressure points with your two favorite hosts
I'm Dee and this is my smooth peanut butter machine AJ. We're coming at you at season 6 episode 7
Death at the mountaintop. AJ is gonna be talking about one of our favorite Christian hymns
So find us on Instagram and not Twitter at points. Oh pressure. Let's get to it
Well turn the fucking thing off you dumbass
Wow that got really loud at the end there. That was weird. Yeah, I'm just gonna click that down
That's fine. But yeah, you know, how did you know? How did you know was about a hymn? Because I sang it
I know that that was a that was for the audience. There will be a performance at some point
There better not be
When you figure out what I'm actually talking soon as you say mountaintop. I'm gonna sing it
Okay, we'll see then
How was your week busy busy past maternal newborn, so that's good
I
Got a pretty good grade. I'm excited to see oh, I thought you were saying else God passed
I was like what the fuck I passed it. I misunderstood the class
You were saying you delivered a baby and I was like I was my brain was like
I passed it like a kidney stone out my ear. I was a little lost. Yeah, okay
Congrats, I just finished writing like an eight page paper
Congrats
How'd it go?
Good
It went up. I
Gotta make sure I turned it in but you got like what three and a half hours left
Midnight. Yeah, something like that
Yeah, and got to do a little bit more homework, but nothing bad hasn't been terrible good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How's your week been?
Just so good. Yeah, it was just so fucking good. Yeah, so fucking good
I know we don't talk at all between episodes. So I have no idea what was going on with your with your week
Yeah, no fucking everything was fine. Everything went really fucking well on Thursday night. Everything was yeah fucking
specifically on Thursday night, yeah, yeah my
One of my fucking hard drives well SSDs failed on my laptop and I had
basically
like everything on there every like
every fucking thing on there
and it took a shit and I
Was like, you know what? I'll just like clear it and then maybe go to like a backup and
I pulled it up and the moment I made the decision after working on it for like six hours the day before
Like five hours the next day just doing all of these fucking stupid command prompts and shit
I was like, okay, I'm gonna reset it and then I'll pull it from the backup and I
Start the computer which it would take like an hour to start up because it would be like, oh I'm gonna we got a repair
No, yeah. Yeah. Thanks. So
it starts up I
Go in and I was like, alright, I get everything ready to restart it and then it just fucking blue screens and
And then black screens on me and it's like are you fucking kidding me? So it was my backup drive
There wasn't my local disk drive, thank god, but
Still so I was like, okay, I do like a power down pull it back up
Nothing. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? So I pop it open pop it open for like the 17th fucking time
Remove it start it up
All as well except my D drive isn't there and I was like fuck this stupid drive. So I uninstalled it and
Your D drive. Yeah
Drive
And then I had to like it had corrupted just a shit ton of other files in the local disk
So I had to fully reset so I have a brand new
slash used
Laptop
Back up. I lost like all of
Well everything everything I lost literally everything so
Fine, it's fucking cool. It's it's all good. I'll be over it by the end of this episode
No, I won't I'm still still bitter about it, but I just got the new one in the mail, which was on sale
That's good. Like it wasn't it wasn't a situation where I was like, oh, I got to pay full price for a new fucking drive
new SSD, but
Here we are here. We are it's been it's been a rough pre weekend pre weekend
Yeah, I'm just glad it's fucking taken care of and that it didn't break my PC and then yeah, that's good at least
Start from scratch because that was a buy a new one. That would really I was
Thursday night was a rough one. I bet my girlfriend was like, do you want to play anything with a
h a and wife and I was like
No, I was like I fucking can't I couldn't even open applications on my local Wow
That's why I had to fucking reset everything. Yeah
Yeah, so here we are. We're fucking here. Here we are. Yeah
Now I'm pissed off. Okay. Yeah, great. It's okay. I I need you to be pissed off
I'm sure it's ruined. I gotta sing. I gotta sing to feel bad
No, not yet that happens in like the last quarter that I actually mentioned it. Okay today
I'm gonna be talking about somebody I bet
99% of the audience including you have never heard of before
Try me Martin Luther King jr. Trust me
Never heard of them. I know
the the American, you know education system nowadays
Sucks when I was in school we had like a whole month when I was here
But it was it was good. I feel like the something that I actually did retain
Well from elementary school was the general story of the civil rights movement. So I'm I'm not gonna go into
The whole civil rights movement much. Oh
Wow, what the fuck? Okay, not cool
Because I feel like a lot of people know about it if you don't
It's okay. I'll do the basics. Yeah, I was gonna say I was like a lot of people know about it
But we do have an international audience. Yeah
He's that's why I'm doing the basics. Yeah, so he was born January 15th in 1929. He died April 4th 1968 the end
That's your basics done. He was a Baptist Baptist minister. He was a civil rights activist leader
he based a lot of his you know beliefs, I guess a lot of his
Like
The way all protested theology and his methods on not only you know basic
Bible shit, but also
Gandhi
That's definitely picked up there
But he based a lot of his shit on Gandhi his big thing was non-violence
While creating civil disobedience, which is awesome. So they do like
anti-segregation sit ins
But when they started to get the shit kicked out of them by the cops, they wouldn't kick back
They would just sit there and take it and then people would take pictures and there's no way you can frame that image
It's like the as them as the villain the cops
spraying the guys
The protestors bring like the 12 year old girl with the the mace. Have you seen that one?
Yeah with like the from the Civil Rights movement. Oh, yeah
It sure is the children of Birmingham, Alabama full fucking I mean this is I
I even know how much pressure it was back. Oh god. It's a lot
Yeah, a fire hose full pressure to just hold hands. It's like
Literally tumbling people down the street. Yeah, and there were a lot of like
You know, he went face to face against the Klan
There was a lot going on in this time period like you had a lot of other groups
Who were like no?
Let's be violent
Like they deserve it after this long. I'm not saying I disagree but
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so
That was a big thing. Like he was also connected to a lot of not only church organizations
But just civil rights activist movements in general
You know like the Black Panthers or Malcolm X and all those are just the big ones name it off the top of my head
And
God just the whole non-violence with civil disobedience. I love that shit because it's chaos
Dick it's chaos without
Direct harm you're showing you basically outline how dumb people are and then when they react
You make them look more dumb like it works. I mean it worked catch them in their own fallacies
Oh, yeah, and he also did a lot of stuff with like workers unions. He did a lot of stuff with
With indigenous people he he very much branched out
It wasn't just the civil rights movement that he that he was working for
You okay there touching the microphone
All right, so
Next I'm just gonna go into our best friend
Guy who comes up all the time on this show because he's such a good guy Jay Edgar Hoover
I mean, what's the difference? Yeah, same same guy ones in the FBI and
Yeah, yeah, the other pretty much
Fuck him. Fuck them both. Yeah
So Jay Edgar Hoover leader of the FBI, you know federal
Bureau of Invest investigation you know international audience. We got to outline. I have no idea if other people know
that stuff, but he
Saw King as a radical no way and made him the target of a counterintelligence program
In 1963 didn't just see him as radical because he was over the civil rights movement
He saw him as a problem because of his race. Yeah 100%
like if the thing that's always kind of stuck out to me is I feel like
You wouldn't have had so much police
Involvement with Martin Luther King Martin Luther Jesus Martin Luther King jr. If he had been white
They would have been angry about it, but they would have done what they did. Oh, just just wait
They did is fuck is crazy
So we've talked about cointelpro before the counterintelligence program from the FBI because you know
My grandfather was an agent in cointelpro. He wow talks yourself. What the fuck because
It's the only grandfather who's been in there
No, but he doesn't talk about a lot. He just said that he did a lot of investigations when
Police or government agents are involved in the investigation
Police or government agents were killed by
Groups like the black panthers or the communist party or they didn't really kill anybody
But you know what? I mean, basically it was when an agent or a cop died and it was
Motivated by one of these groups. He was he would investigate it boo
Yeah
He then he then came home and became a cop
so
Yeah
And he recants a lot of stories of family parties about how he busted that guy who's
On marijuana, but he he basically explained that the guy was going through alcohol withdrawals
But because they found it marijuana it was the marijuana that causes
The withdrawals so therefore marijuana is addictive and everybody in the news and research is wrong
I met him one time
and by the time he left I had plenty of
of grand information about cops in the what 70s 80s
Well, he he was an agent in the 70s. Oh, oh whenever he whenever he was a cop. That's what he told me about and I was like
Wow, yeah
80s and 90s. He had the mustache. He still has the mustache. Yeah, he looks like an old cop. Yeah, like he's got the ankle holster
Oh, yeah. Yep. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's like little pea shooter. It's like uh, wow fuck off
No, I love him
So great guy now that he's not an officer. Yes
Counterintel he he really has come a long way even just since you know, i've been alive
He's really it's because you're alive. Well turns out having a family member
Well, yeah, no turning it turns out having a family member who came out as gay really changed his mind
Congratulations for coming out. Oh, yeah
Smooth and you know
People can change doesn't really mean that they know anything about weed or drugs, but
the idea in most of co-intel pro was
gather dirt on you know different groups
And use it to blackmail him. She's and that that's just what j. Edgar Hoover did with the FBI
That's why he stayed. I think he was the the head of the FBI for like 37 years
He founded it like he was one of the founding members and then he stayed in the FBI
He was one of the founding members and then he stayed as the the leader for so long because his big thing was digging up dirt on presidents
and then
Whenever they tried to come down on him through congress he would
Blackmail the congressman's blackmail the president like he had dirt on everybody. He was just a federal mean girl
Yeah
Yeah
And that really makes sense. He really liked wearing dresses the federal racist meme. Yeah mean girl
So the the official reason for co-intel pro was to he said anybody who has any kind of views that
Government subsidies or systems should support those in the lower class must be communist
So yeah, we are we have to find a communist connection between all these different groups, especially
king
We got to figure out because he has to be a communist right because he's advocating for if you don't workers rights
Yeah, if you don't love america, he never said he didn't love america
Well, if you don't love the exact state that america is in at this point, you're a fucking commie
So there you go. Exactly like that was he linked that boom. I just did your fucking job
You just did my entire episode the end
So the unofficial goal obviously
Fine dirt make them
like
Basically take away their power as revolutionists essentially
They were also targeting the nation of islam the black panther party malcolm x all that all that shit
And despite martin luther king jr winning a nobel peace prize
Speaking out against viet the vietnam war
Speaking out against poverty speaking out against the the fallacies of communism the fbi sat down and was like this guy's a bad guy
Yeah, of course. He's bad because he doesn't want people to die in a in a useless war
Yeah, and he doesn't want poor people to just die for no reason. This is a bad guy because he wants to be equal
Yeah, that seriously isn't that completely ridiculous?
So we're gonna jump ahead to the assassination martin luther king jr was assassinated
What the fuck do you mean you want rights? Come on, man?
Uh 1968
The just so you know co-intel pro started 1963. So this is the fifth year fucking years of this
uh, he he was
Traveling around to begin the poor people's campaign. It was called where the goal was occupy washington dc
Try to get some workers rights
Okay, totally commendable goal march 29th 1968. He was in memphis tennessee kind of getting ready for all that
Uh, he was specifically in memphis because there were a bunch of sanitary public works
Employees who were striking?
Um, the majority of them were black
Because and they were striking because
When it was a bad weather day like and the the sanitation workers were sent home
The white employees would get paid for the day the black employees would get paid for about two hours
So they were striking they had been striking for a couple of for since the 12th
So 12th to the 29th so a good amount of time. So he was there to support them almost three weeks
Yeah, that's a long time to not get paid
Um april 3rd comes around he goes to king goes to a rally
At oh, I use text to or speech to text on this and it says amy sonic temple. It's a masonic temple
I want a t-shirt that says amy sonic temple and it's got a picture of sonic
No, and then it's just got a picture of a butter finger blast. Yeah, exactly
That's great
And so he goes to a masonic temple and he gives a speech that's known as the mountaintop speech
And i've got a little quote here
Because oh and I have a song to sing. Yeah, you sing it behind when i'm reading the speech
Behind when i'm reading the speech
Um, and he says and then I got to memphis and some began to say the threats or talk about the threats that were out
What would happen to me from some of our sick white brothers? Well, I don't know what will happen now
We've got some difficult days ahead
But it doesn't matter with me now because i've been to the mountaintop and I don't mind like anybody
I would like to live a long life longevity has its place
Sorry, there's a weird glitch happening on my screen, uh, we've got some difficult days ahead
Oh, I did I do that? Yeah longevity has its place, but i'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do god's will
And he's allowed me to go up to the mountain and i've looked over and i've seen the promised land
I may not get there with you
But I want you to know that tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land. I'm so i'm happy tonight
I'm not worried about anything
I'm not fearing any man and then he goes on to talk about god a bit. Jesus. So he's basically like fucking
Like if i'm gonna die i'm gonna die at least i've seen it at least i've seen that what i'm doing
You know my interpretation of course is you know, i've seen the progress that we've made i've seen that we can get there
So if one of these threats ends up being true
Yeah, his flight to this event was delayed because someone threatened to bomb the plane and that was before you know tsa
Yeah, and I mean you also it's another way to take it is that like
He will get you there or he will die trying whether yeah like that line
like whether i'm here or not, it's just like
Fuck yeah strong this dude. I love this dude's speeches
They are very powerful. He was very eloquent
and
You know, it was very
interesting
That he decided to give that speech that day because the next day
He was at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis
He they stayed him and his like crew stayed in room 306
He was out out on the balcony on the second story and at 6.01 pm. James Earl Ray
Shot king on the balcony
He went down his final words were to the musician who was in kind of his crew who was going to be playing at an event that night
and he requested that he plays the song
Take my hand precious lord and to play it real pretty those were were his last words
Now he was sent to into emergency chest surgery. He died on the table. Basically the bullet went in through his cheek
bounced off the his uh
His vertebra vertebrae and bounced down into his chest. Oh
Damn, that's a lot of work
He had been he had spent 13 years of his very young. He was young
Very young life. Oh god. Was he 39? I was gonna say I thought he was in his 30s. He's in his 30s
So let's talk about James Earl Ray or as my notes say James early ray
Okay, he
was seen
fleeing
From across the street
He was seen
fleeing up from across the street of the
Motel after he shot king
But we'll get into how he was caught and everything too. James Earl Ray
Was a basically a career criminal in 1949. He went away for burglary
Armed robbery in 1952 mail fraud in 1955
Armed robbery again in 1959. He was then sentenced for 20 years in prison because he just had so many offenses
But he escaped in 1967 by hiding in a bread truck
They at the time the prison that he was in they had a bakery
And they would sell the baked goods
To local companies so he just stayed in the bread truck and they drove him out
This is some Shawshank Redemption shit. Yeah
And he he dug an escape tunnel with a spoon
Now so he
He escaped prison and he started moving all through the u.s
And he got into canada
And then he moved to mexico where he tried to become a porn director dude dude went north and was like i'm going south
Yep, exactly
Oh god, he yeah, so he
used a catalog like a sears catalog
To get a bunch of film equipment and then he started hiring the sex workers in mexico
To star in his pornos
Well, it turns out filming
Poor mexico
Poor mexican sex workers wasn't that successful not a huge audience unless you're andrew tate
Well, yeah, unless you're andrew tate shit. This was proto andrew tape
And then he he did the cardinal sin and he fell in love with a prostitute. Oh, he's in love with the hooker. Yep. He uh
She paid
She dumped him and he was like, oh this isn't working
And then he left mexico in november of 1967
to where
LA where did he go? He went to la because there was a an up-and-coming politician
Who he aligned with named george wallace
He joined the campaign and uh, basically the platform was entirely
Anti-civil rights movement segregation segregation should be like apartheid apartheid. Yeah apartheid level
Apartation apartheid. I know but I still say it
I thought you were debating which one it was. No, no, I that's like we were lectured on this
yes apartheid but
So he he's working for this this presidential campaign still undergoing a fake name
Because he still wanted
I I miss the days where you could go across multiple federal borders despite being a prison escapee
I miss those days or the days you can
You know get on an airplane without it. Yeah get onto an airplane without being metal detected
I'm totally off topic. Did you hear about those the fucking american people in what I think was like israel?
They were like they found an old piece of world war two like like basically a bomb that never went off
Okay, I think it was israel. I don't remember but they found it. We're like, oh cool. Let's take this back home
Put it in their fucking bag. Oh my god, and then at the airport it was
Just fucking flagged and they were like everybody get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that's an unexploded ordinance is so dangerous
There's a video people still go off people just fucking
Scrambling to get out of the building. Yeah, i'll get the fuck out of there. Imagine being that fucking stupid. Yeah, jesus christ
only in america
Yeah made in america, baby americans
So he was also planning starting to plan this move to go to rodisia
Which is zimbabwe now?
Because at the time there was a white minority regime that was extremely racist
You're seeing the common themes with this guy
He really liked white people. Yeah
No, I thought george wallace was definitely not white. Yeah, right george wallace
So he
It's not really known why but he left la on march 18th
He drove to atlanta. He got there march 24th. He drove to atlanta from la
Yeah, fuck man homeboy had some mental health issues if you didn't notice. That's the road trip
We should take do what I would do it except instead of can we do it in six days instead of making it quick
We should just go north and hit everything that doesn't suck
No, we we should do uh
james earl ray
Road trip where we go to everywhere. He went we should not should we call it?
James earl ray road trip. We should not do that. We'll we'll publicize it. Never mind. Never mind. Oh, never mind. Let's not do that
So he left it like only only if we do it and then we advertise ourselves
fully
fully communist
Just to really fucking really confused people. Yeah, this is the anti j. Edgar hooper james earl ray tour
So
That's that's see now we're cooking that's some that's some serious troll hey with you supporting us on patreon we can take this trip
So
He bought a map of the city and started circling residences and churches where martin luther king
Frequented. Oh, fuck you not entire like so his big thing was he loved reading newspapers
He was really good at gathering data from newspapers. So whenever they said oh martin luther king jr. Is staying at this hotel or
Performing a speech at this church. He would circle it and he'd started gathering data
so on march 30th, he'd been in atlanta for
Six days. He bought a hunting rifle. It was a 30-06. He bought a
pack of ammo 20 rounds a scope and
then he drove back to
Then he drove to memphis
because
It was in the news that
martin luther king jr.'s plane was delayed because of a bombing or a bombing threat on his way to memphis tennessee
In memphis tennessee
He was very well known to always stay at the lorraine motel and he always stayed in room 306
That was a very that's just where they stayed
They did a lot of shit in memphis tennessee just in tennessee in general
But that was where they stayed that was their base. Okay
I mean
It makes sense like
Obviously back then you can't just fucking text somebody and be like hey uh changing the room number to like yeah
Like not only that but 429. It's
It's not really on your mind. Yeah, like now i'm paranoid as hell
I would never publicize where i'm staying because I know there are crazy people out there
If I were traveling I would not stay in the same hotel room twice
Yeah
Seriously, but it was a different time man. This was like literally 60 years ago. Yeah, this is a long ass time ago
Yeah, pretty much
So he checked in in memphis to a boarding room
Got a room and sat down
Let's see. Did I say you got there?
Yeah on march 30th. He bought it. He stayed there for a couple of days shot martin luther king jr
scrambled out of that building and that room
Ditched a package that had the rifle in the monoculars on it like on the same block
And it was covered in his fingerprints, which the fbi found you don't mean you mean you tell me this guy wasn't too bright
Yeah
Weird it was also very interesting that he he didn't die on the spot because there was a policeman
Who ran over from across the street?
And performed first aid on it on martin luther on martin luther king jr. Yeah
You can say any of them you can say king you can say martin luther. We know who we're talking about on that
That's fair. I just get like i say martin luther and i'm like wait. No, no, no, not the protestant. No, not him
But they're they're
But they're they're so turns out the fbi wanted to keep an eye on yeah, because they already were
They wanted to keep a closer eye on him. So across the street in the fire department
No on king on the fire department across the street. They they put a bunch of cops
To keep an eye on him. Yeah, and that that ended up
Benefiting extending his life a little bit obviously still died
But I thought that was interesting that he was also just under surveillance by everybody. Yeah
And so it's really weird that the fbi can have this deep secret counterintelligence program
But then when he gets killed, they are then put in charge of investigating it
Because who else is?
Yeah, so hopefully the the agents who were investigating it had no idea about the counterintelligence program
But you know who the fuck knows because all the information still comes down from jay Edgar hoover
So this is the 60s. So my guess is that they weren't too great at covering it up
Yeah, well, this isn't the cia. This isn't the cia. This is the fbi. Yeah, they're
never mind they're
slow sibling
Yeah, they they came out with the cord on them around the neck for a little too long
They got they got their head punched in a bunch as a baby from their older brother the cia. Yeah, that's exactly it
That is exactly it
So this guy ray
James Earl ray gets on a flight to atlanta up to this point. He's been driving everywhere
But he gets onto a flight goes to atlanta takes a flight from there up to toronto
Where he was in toronto within three days?
Jesus where he just hid around for about a month and then he got a canadian passport
And he was like i'm going to mexico again. Yeah, no, but he got he just
Just stayed in canada for a month and then got a passport under a fake name
It was so easy to get passports back. That shit was like like
I know the catch me if you can is not entirely accurate, but I know like it's based on a true story
Like that fraud shit was so easy. My god was like what the like what the fuck everything was
Was paper file system. Yeah, like what the fuck else is gonna happen if you had a most wanted guy
and you're
Let's say you're in memphis tennessee and you know
He's going to toronto and you write a letter and send a picture. It'll get there after he's there and left
He's gonna land have a fucking lease
On an apartment under a fake name. Yeah. Yeah
He's gonna steal the identity of a child who died at birth
And steal their their social security number and your shit is gone. That shit is so crazy
It wouldn't even be a real social security number
It should be like a bunch of fives and they're like, you know that as he's applying like wow
Your whole social is fives. He's like, yeah. Yeah, that's wild. They're like i've never seen that before approved
Yeah, wow, that's so unique if you were fake you would have chosen a more convincing number
So stupid oh god, so he used a simpler simpler
Simpler shittier time
So he used the passport to get onto a flight to england because his plan, you know, go to south africa
Um and and he'll be set
So he got on the flight to england and then he got arrested in an airport trying to go to brussels
Okay
Because the name
You know canada is a little bit more connected to the rest of the world compared to the united states. They had interpol
So his fake name was on the kind of watch list. Yeah, so they arrested him
On his way. He was trying to get to angola rodisia or south africa. Those were
Because they're all super racist. Yeah. Yeah, he fit in perfect. Exactly. So
So he was extradited to tennessee good old tennessee
uh, you know justice
and
He confessed to the murder
Because if he didn't
The death penalty was on the table
So he was like, oh i'll just confess to it. Oh god
So that I don't get the death penalty. He was given 99 years in prison
Okay
Three days later. He fired his attorney
And tried to recount his confession
Which he was already charged like it was way too late
Uh, his new story is he met a man in montreal
in 1967
And his name was raul and he was a blonde cuban man
Oh my god
And this guy raul the blonde cuban actually did the assassination
But that he you know ray
was
Was partially responsible, but he didn't know it he didn't know that he was an assassination. He was just helping this guy raul out
We have the same fingerprints. That's how we met now. He then said
Someone said that probably to his face and then he said no
No, I left my fingerprints on the gun on purpose because I wanted to be a famous criminal
I wanted to go down in the history books and so now he's saying no, I didn't do it
How are you going to be a famous criminal criminal because he left the fingerprints because he knew the other guy would get away
Oh, it's genius
Yeah, that's a word for it. He then said
That he knew he would be able to escape the police in the investigation because he was so cunning and smart
He said behind bars
He then said oh no, he allowed himself to get caught because george wallace would be the president soon and he'd get a pardon
George wallace never became the president
Uh, no, he's my favorite 40th president. Yeah, I swear I promise
He then a couple years later, I think it was a couple years. No, it wasn't that long after he escaped from prison
Oh with six other people
For three days that bim ted bundy was one. Yeah
Yeah, definitely
um
So he got recaptured then he hired him guy named kershaw to be his new attorney
That's such a fucking lawyer name. It really is
and so kershaw pushed the conspiracy story of the blonde cuban named raul
Actually killed martin luther king jr
And let me just double check and all this shit there
let's see so
The united states house select committee on assassinations
Conducted some ballistic tests just to
Uh, because kershaw said oh, why don't you guys do some ballistic tests? See if the bullet actually came from the gun
uh, it was
Officially inconclusive. They basically just said yeah the bullet came from a gun
That was the exact gun that was used in the the assassination
But we don't know if it was specifically that one that model or one of the
Thousands of them that were mass produced that year, you know
We don't we don't know if it's the gun from the guy who admitted to doing the crime
We just know it's that model that it could have been anybody else
Yeah, fucking god. So kershaw goes to goes to james and says
Hey
Why don't we do an interview for playboy? Oh god. What playboy playboy used to do all these interviews. They used to be
very much
news
And like culture and they would do articles on like with like leading physicists
And shit like it used to be a big thing. I mean they would still have women
But in between them it was it was an attempt at like an intellectual gentleman's magazine where you're smart
And you need to learn about who got the Nobel prize in physics this year
While you're smoking a cigar and jerking off after you're after you're having your post jerk cigar
Yeah, which is actually the opposite of hustler magazine which
Released that thing about that lady fucking the dolphins in that. Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah
That was the time that was the type of same same. Yeah
Jesus, so I didn't know they had like news dude. They had some crazy shit you could find
so much like
pseudo-intellectual
I actually I collect old playboy magazines for the articles for for the historical accuracy
Well that that used to be a joke. I think in like the 80s and 90s. It was you know, when somebody found their kids like
Playboy it was like oh, I only have it for the articles
I was just reading up on the communists in the 60s. I swear to god mom. It's crazy
I'm gonna I'm gonna try I'm trying to find my dick's hard for capitalism. I promise because I actually do have a small collection of like
40s and 50s nudie mags. I'm trying to get some really early playboys
Just gonna bust out there expensive. Oh, yeah, we'll do a review. No, I have one that has an anti-hitler ad in it
Oh shit, so cool
But uh, let me see that yeah for the article for the ad. I just need it for like overnight. I'll just keep it
Yeah, yeah
Um, it falls apart every time you touch it. You can't touch it. I'm sure I'm sure but
So he yeah, it really is for some reason
You crispy. Yeah, so kershaw got james to do the interview. He gets there
They're doing the interview asking him questions. He's saying I didn't kill him pushing, you know the same story and then it says okay
Here's the polygraph test you you agreed to
And kershaw's like yeah, you have to do it like do it. You got nothing to nothing to fear
She's just leaning over the table. Like come on. Just fucking do it. Just do it
And you know nowadays we know totally inadmissible. It's very easy to fake it or to skew the results
But at the time period it was very much like a smoking gun type thing
and
The magazine published the interview which said
That james earl ray killed king alone. That was the the official answer to the polygraph test
Uh ray fired kershaw because he also found out that kershaw got eleven thousand dollars to do that to get
Ray to do the interview ray didn't get any of it. You got played you fucking idiot. He's such a dumbass
He hired another attorney and didn't go anywhere. I'm firing you. Okay. Here's my fucking bill stupid. Yeah
All right now pay me another eleven thousand or whatever
So obviously this is the civil rights movement king is a very
Prominent figure he's he he was known as you know, he was the most famous black man in america
He was the first famous black man in america was one of the
You know one of the titles one of the titles
And so obviously when he died there were
Race riots like we've never seen in our lifetime like across the united states
There were
Multiple cities that had a bunch of riots and protests and everything
Um the president at the time tried to call like local civil rights leaders to say to like calm them down
But it's a white guy
Who's upholding an institution that they are actively fighting against so it really didn't work that well if only the president had been george wallace
Yeah
Then they would have been executed
god
So we're gonna jump forward a little bit you know as as we know
Civil rights movement was largely a success
Ended segregation really paved the way for a lot of advancements that we still have a long way to go
But we definitely went a long way because of this, you know the civil rights movement
1997
king's son
Met ray in prison
And asked him to his face. Did you kill my father?
James Earl ray says no
King's son says i'm gonna try to get you a new trial
What yeah, I don't know what's going on, but
Actually, I do I do have a theory on that but you're like, yeah, I don't know what's going on
Let me continue this story and tell you yes
No, because I that more of my interpretation
So most of king's remaining family members
So most of king's remaining family including his wife
Worked with james earl ray met him and tried to get him a trial. Okay
they
You know on their own just did not believe that he
Killed him or if he did he didn't do it alone. They basically said
Oh, there was one quote. I should have written it down. It was basically how did this 10 cent white boy kill?
The million dollar black man like how did this how did dipshit magoo figure out how to do this on his own?
Yeah with a history of mental illness, which I mean they weren't considering that at all
That's fair, but you know with with his history being a podunk hillbilly white boy
Who tried to film porn in mexico and fell in love with a sex worker?
like, oh, yeah, imagine
That fucking level of forgiveness
Yeah, I mean like that that level of compassion
for someone else who
Killed your dad effectively like slowed down the progression
Yeah, of the civil rights movement. Well in some places he actually sped it up
It's like sped up but also like imagine how much oh my god better things would have been if he had if king hadn't died
Oh my god, I couldn't imagine it wouldn't I'd be so much like it would have gone further along
Sorry, not slowed but it I feel like yeah
It would have gotten like civil rights went through and everything and then it petered off in a way in a way
Yeah, not totally definitely did
But it was kind of like oh we did it and then let's be complacent for these other systemic and that's and that's your dad
Yeah, and 30 years later
you show up to the dude that like
Fuck everybody was like this guy killed him. Yeah
He did it he confessed to it and you sit down and you're like, hey
I want you to get another trial. Holy shit. It just shows that
King taught his kids to be really good people like as far as I know
I don't know anything about them besides outside besides this story. They could be assholes for all I know
But it really shows that the teachings that he you know, he really put forward a lot of
the everybody is
Human everybody makes mistakes and everybody can be changed like
Yeah, no that level of forgiveness insane
Well much more enlightened than me. I had no idea. I didn't know that I didn't know that happened
Yeah, and this isn't talked about a lot because there's a lot of
We're gonna talk about it. There's a lot of controversy coming up. This is this is the meat. I would say I would assume it hits
borderline
Con like not controversy. Yeah borderline conspiracy level
Conspiracy levels borderline. No, it is. Oh it is
So in 1999 king's wife caretta and their children filed a wrongful death
suit
Against a man by the name of loyd jowers, okay
Jowers owned jim's cafe, which was just down the street from lorraine motel. Okay
Lloyd had claimed on a tv show a couple years before
Because he was being interviewed about the assassination because he was so close. Yeah that he had been paid
$100,000 to arrange the assassination of king to hire a hitman
and get him
Get him dead paid by who?
Didn't say initially, okay
So they they filed this it's a civil claim they went to a civil court for this which
Yeah, I guess international audience. Do you have a criminal court? You got a civil court civil court is like you sue your neighbor. Yeah
and
You're you don't get
Your you aren't you aren't uh charged with a crime. Yeah, you're basically
Yeah, you aren't charged. You are just given forced to give money. Yeah, or restitution of some sort
So it is not a criminal case
Which is very that is a very important detail
Um, so loyd was charged by the jury for the conspiracy
To um
You know for basically the whole event getting the hundred dollars setting up the more or less inciting the murder of yeah
Mother king jr. Okay, and they also stated that government agencies
were also involved in the killing of king
and
They said that in the court in the court
Yeah, that was part of it and the jury
or and and loyd
Was ordered to pay the family
100 dollars
They were suing him for 100 dollars
What the idea was? Oh, well, we're not doing it for the money. We're doing it for the justice. Yeah for like hey
It's fucking confirmed kind of thing. That's the idea. Okay
The problem is it's a civil court
It was decided by the judge
civil court it was decided by
12 jurors
and
In a civil court. Yeah, there were six black people and six white people on the jury specifically
and
It like
There's an issue with the civil court
In a criminal court, I believe it says it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a civil court
It is a preponderance of evidence
Okay is the verbiage
also loyd
Wasn't questioned during this court case what he was never questioned under or under oath
Damn so there's some shit going on, right? Yeah
So in 1998 the year before the trial officially concluded the attorney general ordered an entirely new investigation on the killing
And they reported or they they put out 150 page report in 2000
um, the department of justice basically said
There was we can't find any evidence of an assassination of a of a conspiracy. I should say
And then loyd's sister would later come out and say that oh he just came up with this story
So that he could sell it
Like so he could just sell the story later
Yeah, he never testified under oath during the trial. The only time he was ever like under oath in question about this
he
Uh contradicted his story. He also changed his story multiple times
Uh like the details of it like originally he was I got paid 100 000 for this later
It was I was holding the hundred thousand dollars later. It was
The hundred thousand all went to the hitman like he kind of changed the story up a couple of times
Well, who the fuck would have thought someone from memphis tennessee couldn't keep their shit straight. Yeah crazy
Um, there were there were you know, some of the family members and stuff and members of the group
He was part of this group that I talk about later
He was the president of it called the I think it's the sclc. I have it down there
They actually did find that some of their members were on the government payroll. They were plants from the FBI
And that kind of so this is my theory
Basically, they they did discover that there were plants from the FBI obviously. I think the family just
Then obviously this is a terrible
obviously this is a terrible, terrible event and they could not cognitively
just say, they could not comprehend how such an important person in such an
important time could be killed by someone that does not match that. That's
actually like the basis of psychology for conspiracy theories. John Oliver talks
about it where he's like, you know, you so badly want to think that the death of
what's her name, Princess Diana, is orchestrated by a larger event
because the cause of death was so sudden and also so... like how could
Princess Diana be killed by something so menial? How could Martin Luther King
Jr., such an important figure, be killed by this dude who was trying to shoot
porn in Mexico? Like yeah, yeah, one doesn't equal the other. Like obviously
somebody so smart, the only way that they would die is by something just
fucking preposterous. Exactly. The impact of his death should, in our brains, our psychology says, oh
that feels wrong because the cause of the death should equal the repercussions of the death.
Someone so good would have to be killed by someone so evil, not someone that's
just an asshole with a gun. Yeah. And turns out Princess Diana's death would have been
prevented with just a fucking seatbelt. I have no idea. Nice. Well there goes our British audience.
Oh no. No, but that's my theory is that the reason they were trying to get in
the new trial and everything, one, because he did confess and there wasn't much of
a trial. Like he just confessed and went away for it. So one, I do think getting a
trial, an actual trial, would have been important to lay out the facts. But they
should have done it then and not literally the year before he died. Jesus. And I do
think that they, you know, like if it was my family member I'd probably do the same
thing. I'd probably, you know, no stone unturned and that leads you to conspiracies and that
makes it very difficult to accept the reality. That's my theory. Obviously they
may have other things that we, you know, don't know about for this. So now I'm
going to talk about Cointel Pro. Okay. And almost done. It's a long episode, sorry.
But I specifically, after learning all that stuff, because the thing that
triggered it is you see it on the internet every once in a while. Oh, do you
know Martin Luther King Jr.'s wife sued the government and for wrongful
death and they won. And that's the thing that goes around. And like there's got
to be more to it than that. Like why wouldn't, oh and then it's, oh well, the,
it's not being reported on. It's being covered up. That's why you've never heard
of it. Turns out it was just, it was a civil case on a guy who was definitely
lying. Yeah, and a guy that never went under oath. Yeah. And they, they just said
government agencies, which can be a street cop, NSA, CIA, FBI, Congress, like
it could be anything. Like it was so vague. Basically all they, all the jury
said through this case was, yeah, it's weird. Like, yeah, it was, it, like there was
weird stuff going on, which we knew about by this point with Cointel Pro. But that
doesn't mean they were trying to, if Cointel Pro wanted to kill Martin Luther
King Jr., they would have done it five years before. Yeah, that's fair. Based on
how many plants they had, how much money they had. Before he would have fucking spoken in DC. Yeah. So the Church
Committee, we've talked about the Church Committee before, they basically
investigated a lot of the Cointel Pro, a lot of the FBI shit. They found that they
were, the FBI was creating a directed effort to neutralize Martin Luther King
Jr. as a civil rights leader, as I spoke about in the beginning. Fall 1963, Robert
F. Kennedy, attorney general, I think, yeah, attorney general Robert F. Kennedy,
authorized the FBI to wiretap Martin Luther King Jr. because of his
association with a dude by the name of Stanley Levison. Stanley Levison had a
connection to the USA Communist Party, so they were like, oh, there's a
connection there, that's enough reasonable doubt or whatever to justify
the wiretap. The approval for the wiretapping was for a trial basis, maybe a
month. J. Edgar Hoover said trial basis, maybe over a month, rip. Yeah. Today.
Unfettered access. Yeah. Do whatever you can to find any information. That
completely unshackled his agents. So they started bugging his homes, his
offices, hotel rooms, churches, Jesus, like everything that he was connected to.
Oh yeah, SCLC, it's the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Oh, okay.
He was the president of. He actually classified that group as a hate group,
which is really stupid because they were all about non-violence. Jesus, of
course he did. Yeah, because saying, oh, they're a hate group, you can do
whatever you want with them, with your agents, like you have them do whatever. He
also said, no opportunity should be missed to exploit through counter
intelligence techniques the organizational and personal conflict of
the leaders of the groups to ensure the target group is disrupted, ridiculed, or
discredited. Okay. Basically, do whatever the fuck you want, as long as you get
dirt on them and and we can discredit them entirely. Jesus Christ. That's a
quote, by the way. The NSA was involved, which a lot of people didn't know the
NSA was around during this time period. They're there. Yeah, they've been doing
shit for a long time. But they're so secretive. They kept it under wraps,
way better than the CIA and the FBI. Yeah. So they had a secret operation called
Operation Minaret, where they monitored leading Americans who were critical of
the Vietnam War. A review of this program considered it to be extremely illegal.
They had no repercussions for doing it. They were monitoring JFK. No, MLK. I have
MLK down. So they were they were monitoring him because he was critical
of the Vietnam War. Jesus. The in, I love this, 1976. So years after all this, the
FBI admitted that they never found any amounts of evidence that King or the SCLC
were involved with any communist organizations. See, Leveson had been part
of the Communist Party. He left the party in 1955. Now, eight years before they
started the investigation. Yeah. What the fuck? And that was their in. Yeah. That was
their smoking gun. Hoover, there are many quotes by Hoover about Martin Luther King
Jr. I suggest you read them if you're interested. He says the N-word a lot. We're not
gonna be able to read them. I do have, I have two here that I was able to find. And
he said that King is the most notorious liar in the country. That's a perfect
quote. He also said that he was knowingly, willingly, and regularly cooperating and
taking guidance from the communists. Which in 1976, they completely said, well,
we don't have any evidence of that. He just kept saying that. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
the more you fucking repeat it. You repeat it until it's true. Yeah, I mean, he's in power, so what the fuck
else is anybody else below him gonna do about it? They can't do anything. He wouldn't
even let them ride in the elevator with him. Yeah, Janter was a fucking... He was a
sociopathic asshole. Yes, thank you. Yeah. God, dude. Holy shit. In walks the CIA. They
start intercepting the mail of Martin Luther King Jr. We have something we can
slip into his water that will turn him into a communist. Yeah. And so they start
intercepting the mail of a bunch of different civil rights activists because
communism. Yeah. Great. He probably never received mail that wasn't searched
through or talked on a phone line that wasn't tapped. Easily. The CIA was all
over that. So the FBI started doing what they do and they're like, we got to find
dirt on this guy. And this is the real, basically the, not the point, but
the point that I wanted to get across in this episode. There's so many times that
you can talk about somebody who's viewed as like a positive figure for
history. Like Mother Teresa. Awesome. She did a ton of great work for people in
Africa. And then some asshole, you know, contrarian will say, oh well, she
actually helped spread the AIDS epidemic because she wouldn't allow for
condoms. She would teach against them, not allow them in like humanitarian aid.
I'm like, okay. And then you, and then it's like, oh, Gandhi slept with his 12 year
old niece. I'm like, yeah, he did. In the same bed. You know, like, yeah, there's
always a caveat. It's something that allows for doubt. It's to add, yeah, it's to discredit.
Yeah, exactly. You're talking about the Holocaust. And somebody will say, well, there
weren't actually gas chambers at this specific camp. Yeah. So therefore all of
it should be thrown into doubt. Yeah. It's like taking one tiny thing and saying
because of that, it's all, is that the straw man? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I fucking
hate that. That's so stupid and such a dumb way to think. So well, it's also a
really easy way to, yeah, exactly. It's so easy to say, oh, well, they got this
wrong. What else did they get wrong? Everything. Okay. Yeah. So the FBI
started to push that kind of straw man argument. And what they decided to go for
was that Martin Luther King Jr. was a cheater and a womanizer. Have you ever
heard that? I feel like I know or I don't know, but I have heard it. I've heard the
cheater side of it. But it was kind of the same thing. It's like fuck off. Yeah,
exactly. That's how you should act about it because a couple autobiographies of
people near him came out. One guy was like, he was like, yeah, he was kind of,
he became close to some women. And then when asked about it, they didn't have any
evidence and they didn't have any details. And it was very like they put it
in so that their autobiography would sell because they're doing an
autobiography and they're less known than Martin Luther King Jr. Yeah. So it's
like, you know, I think they were really just trying to sell more copies. I'm
sorry to his wife that he might have cheated on her, but he made leaps and
bounds in the fucking civil rights movement. I honestly don't think he does.
Like his right hand man even came out and was like, we talked about this many
times about how sex outside of marriage is wrong and we would never do that. And
I never saw anything even close to this. Like there was one that I was
reading where it was like he was aware of women. Like and he was aware that he
drew women's attention. Yeah. Being, you know, this this huge figure, but he didn't
act on it. He was faithful to his wife. Some one of them it was one guy even
said he went to the as far as to say he never cheated on her. If he ever cheated
on his wife, it was emotionally because he was gone for so long and he needed a
confidant or something like that. Like that that's the the most that I could
find. And even then literally no evidence besides that guy saying it. And it's not
like he fucking cheated on his wife with J Edgar Hoover. Yeah. Like for fuck's
sakes people. Like so well here's the thing even his wife is like yeah I've
heard you know his wife his wife came out and said later that you know I've
heard everything about my husband doing everything wrong and I don't believe any
of it. Yeah. I you know he was a minister. I was you know I believe that he was
devout. I believe that he did not cheat on me. God. And I'll take her. When would he have had the fucking time?
Right? Like seriously. Jesus. So but I did find some more interesting stuff because the FBI
started to that's that's the angle. So they started to send like letters and
reports to news reporters, partners, funding partners for the SCLC, his family.
And this is. They started just sending anonymous letters out. This is 1970. This
is before he died. Oh before he died. Yeah this is during that five years that they
said that. Sorry I jump around a little bit. No you're good you're good. I just
was like I thought it was post and I was like wait what? They the FBI sent him
multiple anonymous letters one of which was decided was designed to try to get
him to commit suicide which is great where they sent him a tape with a letter
that basically said you have 34 days to end it you know what you have to do.
And they tried to write it like it was a black person writing the letter because
they tried to like throw in jargon from the time and it just didn't he
immediately knew it was from the FBI. He literally came out and said this is from
the FBI. It's like that fucking scene out of Soul. Or not Soul. Fucking airplane. Honey
honey here I speak Jive. Oh God. Oh no. That was her she wrote that. Yeah the
letter was actually delivered the package was delivered to his wife
hoping that she would just listen to the tape before reading the letter because
the tape had wiretaps that were it's theorized were doctored to make it sound
like he was cheating on her. And those tapes were locked in the National
Archives 1977 by order of a judge to be only like all of the wiretaps all of the
tapes everything to only be released in 2027. We're getting close. Yeah we're
almost there. In fact this year a clown who cries the the archival footage
should be released from the National Archive. If it does when it does we're
gonna watch it and do a show on it because talked about that for since we
started. But yeah all of that information is locked away so really we'll never know.
I'm gonna say I doubt it. I doubt that there's any real evidence non-doctored
evidence that he cheated on his wife and even if he did again I think the
positives that he put forth into society go well beyond those negatives like
Jesus yeah I love that like that's the only thing they could get. Yeah like and
obviously no 1960s were a completely different time. Whereas like now yeah we
hear about people cheating on their wives and significant others all the time and
it's a fucking meme. Back then it was like a fucking social more a but even
then even then it's still just like that's all you think you can get on him.
Yeah exactly. Like that's that's the best thing you think that's gonna take him
down. Even and when you really really think about it Martin Luther King
somebody who is doing everything in his power to like he knows he's being
wiretapped he knows that he's being watched like he's obviously on every
fuck he's on every newspaper he's in Playboy magazine with a shirt on which
is a way bigger deal. Yeah. He was so fucking well spoken if you truly
believe that he cheated on his wife you're a fucking idiot. Well if you if
you think he cheated on his wife okay but if you think he got caught he knew
he was on watch lists he knew he was being watched by everybody like and even
then he's gonna go talk on the phone about how he just you know yeah like
jump because because he knows that they would have used that to fucking
discredit exactly that that's and so of course the FBI is like oh shit yeah
let's try this obviously it didn't work but if it was fully confirmed yeah they
have pictures of him like through the fucking hotel window having sex with
this other lady yeah we would have if that picture existed we would have seen
it by now like it would have it would have discredited him at the time if it
were true yeah but clearly like they would have had real witnesses they
would have found the women that he slept with they would have had them come
for no witnesses have come forward and no no reputable witnesses and on top of
that it's just like how why would the judge have locked it away yeah the guy
was not have been I think the judge locked it away because it would
exonerate him yeah that's a let's push it further down the road away from these
court cases that are going on away from these investigations so that I'll be
dead by then yeah this bad boy will be locked up for 50 years and then that'll
be someone he'll be dead I'll be dead well no it'll exonerate King you know
I was charges yeah yeah it's like well the judge will be dead by then all the
agents who were involved in the campaign will be dead like it'll be so fur so
disconnected that it'll say oh well we didn't we couldn't find anything that's
reliable anything that's real it's just like such a stupid cop so dumb it really
is so last thing I found 2019 a handwritten note basically a sticky note
on the front of an FBI file was found that said that King was witness to one
of his friends raping a woman and that he was laughing and like giving advice
and it you know some fucking intellectual probably wrote a paper on it
and it went it exploded like oh controversy and then everybody's like
this is the stupidest thing ever you found a sticky note on the front of a
file the file has a tape in it the tape is just of a party Coretta personally
his wife listened to it and said yeah King's voice isn't on that at all he
wasn't even there like I yeah he wasn't even there and it's like there were a
couple dirty jokes it was a wiretap of an event that he wasn't at but on a
sticky note on the front of it it says he did this and so that that intellectual
guy he basically lost his job and funding because he said oh this is the
evidence that proves it and he didn't actually listen to it through it's like
how oh my god how so like imagine you are so ready to jump on controversy
matching in 2019 trying to fucking discredit Martin Luther King who gave
like brought fucking civil rights to the yeah like you're basically just coming
out being like yeah I'm fucking racist and then so I love Snopes they're very
well researched and if there's something that I I'm like I don't know the the
sources I'm finding are kind of wishy-washy I'll go to Snopes okay and
one and I just stumbled across I was just checking to see if there was any
other large controversy to throw in one of them was there's just a bunch on
Martin Luther King's you know they're all sure I'll disprove like one is his I
had a dream speech was was plagiarized and it was like the only thing that's
the same as a previous pastor also ended his speech with the same Bible verse oh
my god dude and there there's so much dumb shit there's also a picture of him
in a hospital and it's like does he look like he just got shot and he's gonna die
this is proof he was smothered to death like bitch that's when he got stabbed in
the gut at a book reading or something fucking QAnon they're also oh my god
they're so dumb so basically all the evidence that we have right now from
what I've been able to find is that there were a bunch of government
agencies trying to slander him and they are definitely not above creating
evidence yeah and he unfortunately was killed by a crazy skinny white dude who
hated black people it's fair like it's a very very fucking that's their point it
sucks cuz I really wanted to get into this is ooh maybe there is a good did
something my wife always makes fun of me for doing this where I go into an
episode expecting something big and no just that I I debunk the fun parts ah
works I mean works it's information like yeah it's the shit that people need to
know yeah she listens to podcasts where they're like who maybe it could be this
cryptid and like that was probably a dog you just you you started off with a
really wild wild story and then you're just like yeah but the reality of the
situation I know but I think that's important I think that's super important
to you know to basically outline that it's okay to speculate and gather
research and evidence yeah but you gotta be in reality but when the research and
evidence is there accept it yeah like you kind of have to if if more
information is found 2027 comes around and you know more evidence comes out
we'll do an episode on it like I'm okay being proven wrong but up to now yeah to
this point it's just a shitty circumstance yeah where we lost a
fucking really good person yeah exactly damn sorry that went on for way too
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the the nine to five that is this podcast yeah and if you're new and still listening
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us you know yeah row that's the word grow is the word I'm fucking tired
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